Saturday, November 29, 2008

Bathroom Sex Scandal Ruined My Life


Not my life but this lady’s life.

DesMoines Register, Staci Hupp Shupp@dmreg.com, November 26, 2008

A Carroll woman who was caught having sex in the men's room at an Iowa Hawkeye football game in Minneapolis last weekend says she’d had so much wine before kickoff that she doesn’t remember walking into the restroom, the man she had sex with in a stall, or when the police opened the door.

What L--- F------, 38, will remember is the humiliation afterward.

“It’s ruined my life,” she said through tears today. “Not just the incident but the press.”

F------, a married mother of three, has been the target of Internet jokes and prank telephone calls today. She was fired this morning from an assisted living center, where she had been an administrator.

F------ said her husband, K----, has been supportive. She said he faults himself for not going with her when she left her seat to use the restroom before halftime.

“I don’t know what happened,” L--- F------ said. “But I don’t deny that it did happen because obviously there are police reports.”

Police ticketed F------, 38, and R--- W----, 26, of Linden for indecent conduct Saturday night.

A security guard who said he saw the two having sex through a gap in a men’s restroom stall flagged down campus police, according to the police report.

By the time an officer arrived, about a dozen people were cheering and laughing in the bathroom while F------ and W---- were inside the stall, the report said.

The officer pushed his way through the crowd, opened the door and separated F------ and W----, the report said.

Police described both F------ and W---- as upset, drunk and uncooperative.

Chuck Miner, deputy chief of the University of Minnesota police department, said officers tracked down F------’s husband.

“I’m not sure how they made contact with her husband, but they needed her husband to help identify her” because she’d given the wrong middle name.

Miner said police didn’t measure the blood-alcohol level of F------ or W----. Asked to respond to F------’s claim that she was too drunk to recall the incident, Miner said: “That’s probably an accurate statement.”

F------ said she’d never met W----.

“I don’t know who this man is,” she said today. “I just found out his name in the paper last night.”

W---- wasn’t immediately available for comment.

Carroll, F------’s hometown, is about 60 miles northwest of Linden, where W---- lives.

F------, who describes herself as a light drinker, drank wine at the home of family friends before the football game.

She said she doesn’t remember how much she drank, but the party’s hosts refilled her glass each time it was low “so I’m sure I drank a lot.”

F------ said her husband later told her he’d tried to talk her out of the game because she was intoxicated.

“He said I didn’t realize it was that bad,” she said.

F------ said her husband accompanied her to the game, but their friends stayed home.

She said she remembers sitting in the stands one moment and the next “being slammed around by a cop and screaming.”

“Apparently I was panicked and very uncooperative,” she said.

F------ said she “ran away” from her husband [at] the Metrodome after the incident.

She said a woman she didn’t know offered her a ride home about 11 p.m.

F------ said she gave her husband’s cell phone number to the woman, who called K---- F------ for directions to the couple’s hotel.

L--- F------ said her attorney has encouraged her to fight the ticket.

“He feels I was taken advantage of in my state of mind,” she said. “This is not me. We’re a very good family. This shouldn’t happen.”

Miner, the campus police officer, said fighting the indecent conduct charge could be a long shot.

“It’s spelled out in the law in Minnesota that intoxication is not a defense to any crime,” he said.

I redacted the names to protect the guilty but I have questions.

In my jurisdiction if you have sex with someone who is too intoxicated to consent then you are a dirty, dirty rapist (you would be shocked how many recruits I’ve had to explain this to in detail because they believe if you get drunk you deserve what you get).

So is R--- W--- a rapist? And if not, why not? And even if there’s a possibility of such why on Earth would the paper publish the victim’s name? There are rape-shield laws about that kind of thing.

Evidently the police have ruled out this possibility.

Ladies and Gentlemen, if your potential sex partner is very intoxicated and is a stranger, or you intend to claim he/she is a stranger, JUST SAY NO. You don’t want any part of that action and you don’t want to be considered a date-rapist.

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How often does L--- F------ blackout from drinking? Shouldn’t she get some serious help? She could have conceivably been charged with assault on a police officer. She also fled from her husband and ended up getting a ride with another stranger. So she’s still in danger at that point.

And while she states that her husband blames himself and she doesn’t blame him… um. She blames a lot of other people.

She said she doesn’t remember how much she drank, but the party’s hosts refilled her glass each time it was low “so I’m sure I drank a lot.”

F------ said her husband later told her he’d tried to talk her out of the game because she was intoxicated.

“He said I didn’t realize it was that bad,” she said.

L--- F------ said her attorney has encouraged her to fight the ticket.

“He feels I was taken advantage of in my state of mind,” she said. “This is not me. We’re a very good family. This shouldn’t happen.”

It shouldn’t have happened, she’s right about that. She shouldn’t have drank so much, her husband shouldn’t have taken her to the game, she shouldn’t have hooked up with the guy in the restroom, he shouldn’t have hooked up with her.

And what about her kids?

I hate to blame the victim here but I’m willing to bet there’s more to this story.

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and here's a little more, but still something stinks.


Woman in Metrodome sex incident says she was victim

By

Friday, November 28, 2008, Daily Times Herald


MINNEAPOLIS - While police say a high-profile indecent conduct case in the Minneapolis Metrodome Saturday is closed, a Carroll woman involved in it told the Daily Times Herald she believes she was a victim of foul play rather than a willing collaborator.

L---
F------, 38, of Carroll, and R---. W----, 26, of Linden, were ticketed for indecent conduct after they were reportedly caught engaging in sexual activity in a Metrodome men's restroom handicapped stall during the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers game with the Iowa Hawkeyes. More than a dozen people in the restroom were cheering F------ and W---- by the time authorities arrived, a University of Minnesota Police report says.

F------ acknowledged drinking heavily before the game and says she doesn't remember being in the bathroom.

"I would never ever do that,"
F------ said. "My kids are my life. I go to church every Sunday."

Information obtained in police reports and during an interview with University of Minnesota Police Chief Greg Hestness revealed no suggestion or evidence that the incident was anything but consensual on the part of both W---- and
F------.

But
F------ tells the Daily Times Herald she may have been drugged or otherwise victimized.

"Everybody thinks something got put in my drink,"
F------ said.

She offers no further details as to how that might have happened or who may have been involved.

"Right, and that's what my attorney and I are working on," F------ said.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yea, right. Rape? You have to be kidding me. Unless the man gave her the drinks and had prior motive and intent to rape her once she become severely intoxicated, it simply cannot be a legal rape, period. The man was also just as intoxicated according to some other reports. Could the man had come out and filed charges against the woman for him not consenting because he was too drunk to remember what was going on? Absolutely not.

This woman is an idiot. She got too drunk and blacked out, and had sex with someone. She made a huge mistake and now she has to live with it. Quit blaiming other people and live with the fact that we're not all perfect family beings that consistently stray from our primordial animalistic sexual desires. She needs to own up and drop this nonsense lawsuit.

Eric said...

anony,

My first impression is "yes, of course she's not a rape victim, she's a skanky drunk"

If you are conscious enough to participate in sex and fight with the police and your husband afterward, then you are probably not a victim.

But it's a sticky situation (pardon the pun).

As to the "someone slipped me a roofy" assertion - now she's just rationalizing the horrible predicament she's in.

Still: don't have sex with super-drunk strangers, even if that's how your mom met your dad and/or that's how you were conceived.

Julene said...

Ahh, my alma mater - University of Iowa. I think she's just trying to save her marriage. I hadn't seen all these backtracking - I was drunk and don't know what I was doing stories. That's new from the day after reports. We all wondered how the whole thing went down in the first place, but both (the man & the woman) were released to their respective girlfriend & husband at the time. I'm not so sure that rapists (other than date rapists) usually hang around with their girlfriends until they find a victim. I'm not saying it's impossible, but very unlikely.

smussyolay said...

first of all, we'll save a seat for her in AA.

second of all, i don't care if she's trying to save her marriage or what. technically if you're that fucked up, it's rape. you don't have the wherewithal to have consensual sex even if it seems like you do. now i realize this hurts a lot of men's egos, because it may seem like they've actually raped a lot of chicks.

i only really will press the situation when people start to fuck people who are bordering on unconscious ... but guess what? lots of guys do that, too, and claim that she came home with them or wanted to to start or whatever lame ass excuse they can come up with to justify their actions.

i actually got into this discussion with some of my (sober) friends about the idea of guys 'running trains' on girls. to actually put this in very plain and truthful terms, this is gang-banging people. i guess it's with their permission, but truthfully, when a girl is blasted out of her mind, i don't know how much of her permission she's going to give.

as the guys *did* admit, i don't think any girl starts the night out going "man, i hope these guys run a train on me tonight." no fucking way. guys often live in some porn fantasyland that just does NOT exist in real life. they can MAKE it exist, but in reality that shit is just ludicrous.

anyway. tangent. i think the lady has a lot of 'part' in this she needs to fess up to, but in the overarching argument, i think people need to realize things aren't as blase as people want to make them out to be sometimes.